I Was Attacked by an Angry Mob
On Lit Bros, Internet Trends, and Substacking While Female
This essay originally appeared in The Republic of Letters
Last week, I was “trending” on Substack.
To tell you the truth, I don’t know how this whole thing started or the details of how it played out. I don’t come from the hyper-online breed of humans, so I only noticed that I was “trending” on Substack after enough of my friends sent screenshots my way.
I had caused some nondescript backlash over an article I’d written chastising a set of men who had been bullying me over the last several weeks.
I had no idea that simply calling out a few cyber-bullies—and not even by name, mind you—would create such a backlash. I didn’t know who these people were, and I had never even heard of them until they started poking fun at me. I assumed that they were bots or Internet trolls, but it appears that they were minor personalities in obscure literary circles.
My bad.
In reaction to my observation that societally useless men are doomed perpetually to pick on their more successful female counterparts, the Internet came ready with its pitchforks, conjuring all sorts of juvenile monikers in an apparent race to see who could come up with the most clever Liza Libes insult. After several hours—when it became clear that no one was going to say anything of substance or actually engage with my ideas—the mob ended up proving the original point of my article: people with no ideas of their own can only gain prominence by pulling more unique thinkers down.
So maybe my article was cringe; maybe it wasn’t. But one thing is certainly clear: the mob’s reaction to my response was leagues more revealing than my original criticism.
Because if the backlash—a wellspring of hate posts against yours truly in response to one (1) article—wasn’t a “cringe” overreaction in itself, then I don’t know what was.
It was an enlightening experience to say the least, and now that it’s all behind us (luckily, internet fads have a lifespan of just several afternoons), I got to thinking about what it all says about our hyper-online culture. Why did these mysterious men attack me in the first place? What did I do to blister their egos other than exist with my commentary on literature, publishing, and the humanities at large? Sure, I have some controversial takes—but nothing that should have warranted such an artillery of snide posts. Part of it doubtless came from jealousy—I established a name for myself virtually out of nowhere just from disseminating my ideas—but that in itself doesn’t explain why they chose to go after me in particular. Lots of people have attained Substack fame in short intervals of time. Sure, I’m quite opinionated. Again—lots of people are.
I was also a woman.
I was a successful, opinionated woman.
Bingo.
I’m not saying that there aren’t many other successful, opinionated female writers in the Substack universe—of course there are. But many of the successful women I know writing on Substack are typically writing about sex, marketing, fashion, dating, parenting, or culture. With the exception of a few bigger names who have been around for a while, there hasn’t been quite a disruption to the Substack literature world from a woman in a hot minute. Couple that with brains and strong opinions, and you have the classic recipe for making insecure men feel threatened.
I’m just speculating, of course, but whenever the established order of things gets disrupted—in any domain—there is bound to be an uproar.
Perhaps I was such a disruption.
There are certain “categories” of writers on Substack and in the world at large. For one, there’s a certain “type” you think of when you think of the “Substack bro” (fellow Substacker Michael Mohr informed me the other day that they are colloquially referred to as the “lit bros”). This type shares many traits with the sorts of people I described in my controversial article. For the “lit bro,” everything is ironic and nihilistic. There’s probably a cigarette, a fedora, and a black-and-white profile pic involved. There’s also a weird cult following somewhere in the equation. This sort of writer is certainly not mainstream, and he claims he would rather die than become mainstream (likely because he knows he won’t ever get there).
The persona in question is likely to be a man.
The same holds true for the mainstream side of the aisle. Your household Substack names—Rob Henderson, Ted Gioia, Matthew Yglesias, to name a few—tend to be male. But because they’ve made such a name for themselves already, few people dare to touch them. And the several mainstream female writers who do enjoy a respectable following—your Abigail Shriers or Kat Rosenfields—are typically writing about politics or culture.
So what about literature?
Because the Internet literary world—both the mainstream circuit and its more obscure niches—is male-dominated, successful, opinionated women can’t be “opinionated” or “bold.”
No. They can only have a “meltdown.”
Notice the gendered language here—this sort of description would only ever be applied to a woman speaking her mind. Imagine, after all, telling a man on the Internet who came out with a series of posts that he was having a “meltdown!”
A man who speaks his mind online is “provocative,” “fearless,” and “sharp.” A woman, on the other hand, is emotional or unstable. This explains why it was primarily men who came after me—and why women primarily came to my defense. My fellow female writers understood exactly what was going on. As one of my supporters wrote, “there’s a certain energy” to being “dark, feminine and independent,” suggesting that it was this very femininity coupled with independence that ticked off the entire Internet.
After all, the argument I made in my article was almost identical to the argument that Ben Shapiro makes in his most recent book, Lions and Scavengers—which is, in essence, that there are, indeed, many people in our society who profit off of bringing others down.
In other words, if a man had written the exact same article (and many have!), it is unlikely to have caused such a storm.
Because a man with opinions is intelligent, but a woman with opinions is unstable.
Look. I don’t even subscribe at all to the whole “I’m oppressed because I’m a woman” narrative. In fact, I don’t think I’m “oppressed” at all. The fact that I’ve been able to make a name for myself in such a short span of time suggests the very opposite—that there is little female “oppression” going on here. But while “oppression” itself is not at play here, there are undeniably certain nuances between the way our society views male and female intellectuals, writers, and cultural commentators—and the fact stands that it is still much more difficult to be taken seriously as a woman in these spaces.
Personality psychology explains part of the discrepancy. Studies mapping the “big five” personality traits across male and female responders, for instance, routinely demonstrate that women are significantly more agreeable than their male counterparts, creating a dynamic in which an authoritative woman disrupts a certain equilibrium. After all, a woman can be insightful or reflective, sure, but the moment she becomes declarative or critical, she violates a certain societal expectation—and the pitchforks emerge. In other words, a woman is allowed to interpret culture but not to define it.
That is why the second major criticism levied against me was for daring to voice my takes about the state of our literary culture.
After all, authority in literary spaces is still predominantly coded as male. When we think of serious literary critics, we think of Harold Bloom or perhaps George Steiner—the archetypes of the “literary voice” who brim with unapologetic confidence. But when a woman writes about the decline of literature, she has no right to—at least not without first being published herself, according to some comments I saw.
This argument, of course, is ludicrous. By that logic, all movie critics should all be directors, all music critics should be signed onto major record labels, and all sports commentators should be pro athletes themselves. Furthermore, I am not yet 30 and have lots of time to get published; waiting to speak my mind until after I do would be a pretty stupid career move, if you ask me.
What we have here is textbook silencing of the female voice. Men, after all, can just “do” things. Women need to have all of the credentials for it—and must fight to earn their spots as cultural authorities.
But the substance of the “I don’t have the right to critique or culture” argument wasn’t even that I don’t have the “credentials” for it (though if two Ivy League degrees in English literature aren’t “credentials,” then I don’t know how to help you) but that I was simply a woman voicing my opinions. What people reacted to was not my argument, therefore, itself but the fact that I made it unapologetically. Because people were expecting me to back down.
And that is the part that saddens me the most from all of this: many women would have backed down in response. After all, that was the goal of the haters—to get me to relinquish my claim upon the cultural commentary stage.
But I’m not backing down.
The “lit bro” stereotype exists for a reason—because there is one predominant “type” of voice that comments on literary culture. But when only one side of the equation is accounted for, an entire society suffers from a narrowing of culture.
At the end of the day, I was picked on because I challenged the status quo—because I dared to put my foot down and call out the pseudo-intellectualism that has infested the literary and art world. At the end of the day, I was picked on because I’m not a “type”—I’m an independent thinker who was only ever speaking her mind.
All of this is to say that our society still doesn’t know what to do with women who are unapologetically firm in their beliefs.
Maybe it’s time that we learn.
Until then, I’ve certainly learned my lesson. Don’t mess with Internet junkies with tiny cult followings.
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This is was a really good article by Liza published by the Republic of Letters. I saw all this go down. A random male author who Liza didn’t know, had never met and had never even seen before made a snide little joke at her expense. Also, he and one of his buddies started a hate chain about her. When Liza’s friends made her aware of this and sent her screenshots of what these guys were saying, she posted what they said and then they either deleted what they said or tried to play the victim. Liza then wrote a piece here on Pens & Poison defending herself and putting those bullies in their place. The backlash was swift and fierce. Legions of this guy’s angry supporters and third parties who knew nothing about this situation, jumped in to attack and harass her. Their insults were quite vile and they made no actual arguments just name calling, ad hominems, straw manning her, accusing her of “being cringe”, “having a meltdown”, “throwing a temper tantrum”, and so on and so forth.
It was truly surreal to witness and like nothing I’d ever seen on Substack before. Okay, let me defend Liza here. First of all, you have to understand that Liza had been on the receiving end of intense bullying for months and that it took it’s toll on her personally. She wrote that piece from a place of being hurt and fed up with the constant derision and abuse she was getting for no reason at all. People didn’t like she took shots at their appearance, their fedoras, etc. Turnabout is fair play and considering the nasty things they said about her, her insults were tame by comparison. By the way, those insults were all true. Liza is NOT sensitive to criticism! The thing this guy didn’t have a constructive criticism of her work, he made a petty, childish insult towards her. There is a HUGE difference between those things. If this guy disagrees with Liza he either should’ve A) Kept his opinion to himself or B) Written a civil and thoughtful response to one of her pieces.
Let me also set the record straight on something else, this was not just a “beef” this was an effort by two individuals to target another for vicious bullying and to insult them behind their back even though they don’t know her and know nothing about her. They acted like the mean girls in high school who don’t consider Liza “cool enough” to be part of their little clique, so they resort to picking on her. Did gender play a role in all this? Yes, to a degree it did. Liza is an opinionated woman on the internet. That in the minds of her bullies made her a prime target. How dare she speak her mind! In fact, I’d go a step further. She is a right-wing woman with libertarian views on politics and conservative views on culture and that made the liberal and leftist literary bros want to go after her even more. They also are jealous of her success and didn’t like her opinions therefore they declared war on Liza Libes. I was and still am appalled at what happened.
Shame on the women who joined in and attacked Liza along with those men! The men who attacked her are nothing but cowards who think their tough sitting behind their computer screen typing away. There was also a shocking lack of empathy among the people who went after her. What if this happened to a friend of there’s or someone they loved? What if this happened to their mother, daughter or sister? Would they feel the same way then? Liza handled this exactly the way she should’ve. You can’t take the high road with bullies because they’ll just keep on attacking you. So she stood up to them. Don’t police her response until you’ve walked a mile in her shoes. I give kudos to everyone who defended her and called out her bullies. I also commend Liza for taking these bullies on, exposing them for who they really are and bravely defending herself! Pens and Poison is simply about literary criticism and culture. It is for mature adults. There is no reason this article should’ve caused the stir it did and all these people who attacked her should go to 4Chan, Tumblr or X if they want to behave like that. Substack is a platform for thoughtful, civil and mature adults. I’m so sorry about all the bullying you’ve endured Liza! I hope you had a blessed Passover with family and friends and that you feel much better now!
Liza,
I was not aware of this episode. Yes, it sounds like you threatened their self-esteem by your success on Substack.
I appreciate your writing and your views very much, often because I may not agree with them.