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Ben Connelly's avatar

It strikes me that we are talking about two separate things when we complain about the commodification to mass art (art for mass consumption) and also about the idiocy of modern art. The average person looks at a signed urinal and decides this is stupid, which is why the vast majority of modern art is disdained by the vast majority of people. The reason there is any market at all for modern art is because there is a community of (mostly wealthy, mostly well-educated, often left-wing) types who want to signal their disdain of both “good taste” and “average art.” They intentionally like art which exists solely to defy convention and to “prove” that beauty is a myth and aesthetics are meaningless. I don’t blame capitalism for that, but rather the intentional project on the part of some to reject both traditional aesthetic criteria, and consumerism (to prove that they’re “cultured”).

This isn’t original to me, but a lot of the complaints about mass culture are the same as the complaints going back centuries that the rich had about how poor people have bad taste. When you got an age that produced more democratic art (ie art for the majority population, not just the elites), you ended up with a lot of the cheap, low-brow stuff people disdain as “mass culture.” Why? Because capitalism gives people what they want and this actually does represent what the average human being wants. Most elites can’t come out and say they are snobs who look down on the taste of the poor, because they have to pretend that they’re on the side of the working man/proletariat (including to themselves). But the truth is that the fault isn’t capitalism, but human nature. Not everyone is intelligent or cultured or sophisticated. Like it or hate it, this is what we are.

Finally, Irving Kristol pointed out that the communist countries never produced good communist art. All the good socialist/communist art was produced in capitalist countries. It turns out capitalism really does work better than anything short of oligarchy (Rome, medieval Europe, etc.) at producing art. If more art is produced to meet a growing market for art consumption, the average art will be average, some art will be bad, and some subset of it will be good.

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Doctor Hammer's avatar

Great essay, thanks. 2 points:

1: Adorno apparently wants art that shows truth about life, but is without reference to politics, economics or any of the other things people care about in life. That strikes me as a problem.

2: I wouldn’t blame capitalism for Marvel slop; the market is punishing them pretty hard for their inability to make movies people want to watch. One might debate why they are such garbage the past 10 years, but definitely capitalism is not to blame for their Marxist creators.

I can’t comment on Taylor Swift… my wife likes her stuff, but it all sounds the same to me, as my music does to her. I can only assume she has terrible taste.

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